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May 25, 2020

Hilary and Roger discuss such non-pandemic topics as: the stunning conclusion to the Moka Pot Saga, Hilary’s new book she’s reading on design thinking, building software without dependencies, and Lady Dynamite.

Show notes:

How Design Makes the World

Lady Dynamite

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